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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 13:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wasn't born around this time. I'm just wondering whether fans knew at the time Freddie was dying, or at least whether they knew he was ill and had aids?

Also, people say he was so weak and in much pain towards the end - especially during 'These are the days of our lives' filming. What symtoms would he have had?



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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 13:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

5th_member_of_Queen wrote:
people say he was so weak and in much pain towards the end - especially during 'These are the days of our lives' filming. What symtoms would he have had?


There are many medical website where you can look up Aids symptoms and the effects of pneumonia.
Do you really want to talk about them here?

I wasn't born around this time. I'm just wondering whether fans knew at the time Freddie was dying, or at least whether they knew he was ill and had aids?

Even some of the most basic books and documentaries cover this and the British press at the time.

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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 13:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You're friendly.

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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 13:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You ask distasteful and more than a little morbid questions.


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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 13:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How is it morbird? We know he died, I'm just a fan who is wondering what it was like for other Queen fans at the time. Whether they knew he was ill.

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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 13:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

here you will find some answers:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_xipkQboBAE&t=1864s


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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 13:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Most heartbreaking thing is he wasn’t long away from treatment that could have saved him.

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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 15:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

5th_member_of_Queen wrote:

Most heartbreaking thing is he wasn’t long away from treatment that could have saved him.


No he really wasn't, even if he lived another year he was too far gone for treatment.

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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 16:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As a seasoned Queenette, all I knew was he started to look odd. When he went a chubby, and then a bit skinny I just figured it was normal ageing. You wouldn't see him for years at a time in those day so it made sense. Atfer the Brits 1990 people started spouting stuff their dads had obviously told them about faggots dying and how he was a faggot and deserved it.

Then it was announced he had AIDS and I was still unsure what that actually meant in real terms. Switching the radio on the next morning and they were talking about him and playing music a Queen song. I thought aw that's nice they're showing everyone that there's all behind him (Queen on Radio1 was a rarity). Had a bit of a spring in my step getting ready for school.

Then they said he was dead.

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Posted: 13 Nov 18, 16:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A newbie talking about aids, what a suprise......

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Posted: 14 Nov 18, 14:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As an American fan, I had to get almost all of my Queen news via the fan club newsletter.

I thought Freddie's voice sounded better than it had in years on the Innuendo album. The only inkling I had that he was sick was a magazine interview with Brian and Roger where they asked if Freddie was ill and they said he was totally fine...he had just become reclusive.

That's all I ever came across until his announcement the day before his death and even then I figured we'd still have him for years but...:(

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Posted: 14 Nov 18, 18:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a legit question. Prob stems from people's concern about Freddie this new artist they may be relating to or who inspires them.

Having not been a 1st generation fan they may ask questions like this. I suppose it's curiosity seeing as how they wouldn't know.
since it was a pre internet era, I would think that locally in the USA this was much off the radar.

In the U.K. however those sleaze rags were hounding him and it would appear that UK fans would've had prior knowledge and concern about him during that time especially with fewer appearances


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Posted: 14 Nov 18, 21:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was not a fan back then, but I do know that he had become almost invisible to the public and that magazines were occasionally posting pictures of him and speculating about his health. When his condition was announced, on a Sunday I believe, I figured that he would probably have months or maybe years to live. The announcement on the radio the next morning that he had died came as a bit of a shock.

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Posted: 14 Nov 18, 22:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was another century... i first went online in ‘94 i guess.. i didnt know..
huge shock reading the tragic news on front page in the morning on my way to work..
returned to work somewhere in januari..
And yeah... still not completly over it :(


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Posted: 14 Nov 18, 23:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dysan wrote:

As a seasoned Queenette, all I knew was he started to look odd. When he went a chubby, and then a bit skinny I just figured it was normal ageing. You wouldn't see him for years at a time in those day so it made sense. Atfer the Brits 1990 people started spouting stuff their dads had obviously told them about faggots dying and how he was a faggot and deserved it.

Then it was announced he had AIDS and I was still unsure what that actually meant in real terms. Switching the radio on the next morning and they were talking about him and playing music a Queen song. I thought aw that's nice they're showing everyone that there's all behind him (Queen on Radio1 was a rarity). Had a bit of a spring in my step getting ready for school.

Then they said he was dead.




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Posted: 14 Nov 18, 23:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Same thing happened to me, there were speculations about his health, but I was very young and had no idea what AIDS really meant. The day they announced on the radio he passed away, I was getting ready to school, and it really shocked me. I cried all the way to school.

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Posted: 14 Nov 18, 23:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The very first inkling I had that all was not well was seeing a Barcelona era promo photo of Freddie on his own wearing a blue suit with his arms folded. It was in the fan club magazine. And whilst he looked great I did wonder why he was wearing so much make up on his face. It was absolutely caked on in a way I hadn't seen before. I wondered if it was to hide a skin problem. I'd read the Paul Prenter articles which said Freddie was worried about Aids but it didn't say he had it so I felt reassured. Then the David Wigg article came out where Freddie talked about living like a nun and felt hugely relived that this awful epidemic wasn't going to get him. 1989 and watched a teaser trailer for I Want It All in May 89 and got very excited. Queen were back and this sounded like a great song. I had just become a fan in 1986 and I can't tell you how long the wait was between the Magic album and The Miracle. Throughout 1988 I saw lots of photos of the band in the fan magazine where Freddie was wearing chinos and shirts and looking like an uncool dad rather than a rock star. Then when I bought the IWIA single I thought he looked terrible, so old and with bad skin and unhealthy eyes. But as a kid I just assumed this is what getting old looked like. I was a bit down about it but no big deal. I was sad to see the classic clone look of the eighties was gone though I liked the beard. I could not for the life of me figure out why he just didn't look like himself though in videos. I can see now that it was the weight loss which was noticeable from the Breakthru video onwards. I worried when they cast kids in the video for The Miracle because I felt maybe the band were going to split up and couldn't be bothered making a proper video but I didn't think it was Freddie's health. And then I felt he really didn't look too healthy in the small part he did turn up for. But as soon as he turned up to collect his BPI award for his final public appearance you knew. You just knew and that's when the hounds came out. So when the announcement finally cam I don't think anyone was very surprised. You just thought "oh well, at least we'll get a few more year's of music and maybe he and his doctors will be able to keep him going". I went to my student digs the next night and went to bed just before 12am. I turned the radio on and Bohemian Rhapsody was on and something made me climb into bed to await what I felt was maybe coming afterwards. The DJ confirmed my worst fears and I fell asleep. Woke up and went to the cornershop and bought ever newspaper I could find and just sobbed.

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Posted: 15 Nov 18, 01:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's interesting, because after the release of 'These are the days' and 'I'm going slightly mad' I would have thought it would have been obvious.

He looked so ill in those videos and really I always thought 'These are the days' was his way of saying goodbye to the fans. I just always assumed fans watching that video would have known he was dying.

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Posted: 15 Nov 18, 01:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Curio: we know of the recorded dates. But when was TATDOOL originally officially first broadcast as a music video? I was under the impression it was released much later in the USA. Prob censored until after his death even, as there were like 3 versions even then. Was its only broadcast with the Axl Rose Queen retrospective doc?

I did not have mtv and was super young even then.

Just talking BROADCAST DATES


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Posted: 15 Nov 18, 21:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I remember that TATDOOL was released in Holland a few weeks AFTER Freddies death. (The release date turned out to be 9 december 1991).
FOR ME, the only video released before his death that made me think that he wasn’t in good health, was Headlong.
In the Headlong video it was obvious, he had lost a lot of weight and his moves were very stiff, not natural in a way we were used to with Freddie.
But that was the only signal in the pre-internet era. I’ll never forget (I just woke up on monday morning, ready to go to school), the moment my dad told me that he had just heard on the radio that Freddie had died.
It felt like an enormous blow in my stomach.